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April 11, 2007 am30 8:17 am

The NYC Dept of Education has lots of ways to get excited about failure.  Just a few weeks ago they boasted about high school admissions this year.  Do I exaggerate? Was it a boast?  You decide:

Schools Chancellor Joel I. Klein Announces That More Than 80% of Students Received One of Their Top Five Choices in the High School Admissions Process for Second Consecutive Year

Click the link. It’s a real article. They are delighted. But the details don’t seem so delightful. 90,000 students, almost 10% didn’t get into any of their top 12 choices.

12 choices! And that’s not counting the specialized high schools (Stuyvesant etc) What kind of system is this?

And look at the numbers. Only 60% got one of their top two (non-specialized) choices. And 20% got none of their top 5 choices. 17,000 students?  And these people are boasting?

  1. There is something wrong with the system.
  2. Twelve choices (plus specialized) is ridiculous.
  3. 8000 kids without placement and 9000 more with placement in their 7th or 10th or 12th choice is unacceptable.
  4. Even with their lousy system, a better algorithm would place more kids in a reasonable choice.
  5. Even with their lousy system, I suspect that they are monkeying with placement (paying out favors, etc) downtown.
  6. The themes of themed mini-schools are harmed if 20% of their students aren’t interested in the theme.
  7. A natural place for students without good matches to go is their zoned school – but the DoE has been shutting them down or making them unzoned.
  8. The number of vocational choices is far too low.

These folks should a) reorganize their collective heads out of their collective butts, b) drop the nonsensical reorganization they are trying to put over on teachers, parents and students,  and c) reorganize something that can be fixed for once: the high school matching system.

But, oh yeah. These folks are interested in destroying the system and manufacturing failure, not in fixing anything.

9 Comments leave one →
  1. April 11, 2007 pm30 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

    One would think that a survey of what students are able to do after they graduate from high school would weigh in with more importance. Is there one for that? And if so, what does that data reveal? How many go on to college? How many move the workforce with marketable skills? How many simply struggle? Of course, the current administration would also be interested in the number who enlist in the military (which I imagine is the most hopeful option for the last group), but that’s a different can of worms.

  2. April 13, 2007 am30 3:50 am 3:50 am

    Top 5 doesn’t even mean that much. In some parts of the city there are only one or two schools considered good.

  3. April 16, 2007 am30 1:51 am 1:51 am

    I like how only 52% got into thier first choice for a small school. This is rediculus, and makes me glad EVERY day that I work in Nevada.

  4. April 16, 2007 am30 7:17 am 7:17 am

    These folks really don’t care…

  5. anon permalink
    April 19, 2007 am30 3:48 am 3:48 am

    Maybe you’re forgetting, but the DOE did overhaul the high school admissions process a few years ago. Granted, it’s not perfect now, but you’re forgetting what it used to be – a system where the few who had mastered the unofficial rules of the game got to go where they wanted, while everyone else basically got placed somewhere else, regardless of where they actually wanted to go. At least now the vast majority of students actually go to a high school they listed as a preference. As for the new reforms, what’s “nonsensical” about giving schools the power to decide what’s best for their students?

  6. April 19, 2007 pm30 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

    What power are you talking about? It’s disempowering to force principal’s to make near blind choices, it’s scary to make principals think they have a choice of whether or not to buy ESL or Special Ed services, or an attendance teacher, it’s frightening to provide this discretion to administrators who’ve spent little or no time in the classroom, who bring in no independent knowledge, experience, or authority.

    The old matching system had far fewer chioces (5?), but we had zoned schools (in most of the city). District 2 may have, as a whole, wanted to lose the zones (and it did, didn’t it?), but for most of the city this was the default option. Bloomberg and his Chancellor and New Visions and Nadelstern destroyed that.


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