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June 2010 Algebra 2 and Trigonometry Regents – how was it?

June 16, 2010 am30 7:49 am
June 17 update:  click for the full multiple choice section: Part I images.

The exam itself was not bad, without many iffy questions.

Some notes:

Very few questions were embedded in artificial context – just 7 for my money. This is a huge change from B. (someone could argue that 25 is artificial context – if you ignore the words “Ms. Hill asked her class to…” it goes away. And the later probability and counting problems, 36 and 38, those don’t seem wildly artificial…)

29 gave kids a list of test scores in a frequency table, and asked them to calculate the population standard deviation to the nearest tenth. Part 2 question? Work must be shown? Most kids will straight up calculator this…. and the state says fine, full credit for the answer with no work. Ah, the flexibility of modern educators…

There are complaints that there is no constructed response question related to logs or exponentials – but I don’t care.

There are complaints that naming the asymptote (#31) should not have been on the test. Perhaps, but just one point.

What do you think?

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  1. Student permalink
    June 16, 2010 pm30 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

    I thought it was fairly easy. The first 4-5 m/c were really simple and everyone flipped to next section in less than 2 minutes. The short answers overall were pretty fair. Although it was confusing to show work for how to get 7.4 for population standard deviation, so I wrote instructions on the calculator. I did know how to do it, by finding mean subtracting each number from mean, squaring that difference, then adding them and taking principal square root, however there were so many numbers and it would have taken an hour to show all that work, besides there wasn’t even that much space on the test to do that. A lot of my friends messed up on the probability question with vests, I believe answer was 0.167. The asymptote question was fair, it was x-axis whose equation is y = 0 , I saw nothing unfair on that part, it required understanding. The sin 2 theta = sin theta, a lot of people got 2 answers because they lost a term by dividing, while there were 4 {0,60,180,300} if I recall correctly. Overall I thought it was fair exam, could have tested more on some topics than others, but I didn’t mind. I personally think I got 88/88 raw score, but you never know. Any clue when conversation charts/ Answer key will be available like on Jmap.

  2. Student permalink
    June 16, 2010 pm30 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

    It was ok. The multiple choice was simple. The short answers were’nt bad. If you study you should’ve done fine.

  3. Noel permalink
    June 16, 2010 pm30 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

    Haha someone else decided to use student also, I was the first “student.” So is there a conversation chart or anything out?

  4. Mike permalink
    June 16, 2010 pm30 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

    The conversion chart will be up on the following Web site:
    http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/osa/concht/610/home.html

    Brooklyn Studio already posted the raw scores (see nylearns.org/pcuoccio).

    • Noel permalink
      June 16, 2010 pm30 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

      Oh alright thanks, and wow at the Brooklyn Studio thing, that teacher is really sarcastic about the cheating. And wow someone got an 11, and highest score was 79/88…. But yeah I guess they will be up like tomorrow?

      • Mike permalink
        June 16, 2010 pm30 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

        Yeah, he is a sarcastic one…you have to be patient with the answers and grades, but Steve Sibol should have them up on JMAP tomorrow or even later today.

        PLEASE CURVE A LOT!!!

        • Noel permalink
          June 16, 2010 pm30 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

          I don’t like curves usually doesn’t help high scorers, or helps them a little, but greatly helps people who just need to score enough to pass. I mean if there is going to be a curve, might as well help everyone equally, but then I guess it involves a lot of statistics, and the state needs a certain number to pass to look good.

        • Amanda permalink
          June 16, 2010 pm30 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

          Noel,
          I agree, I don’t think the curve helps high scorers but I don’t think thats the point of the curve. I think its for the majority of kids, to help them, and i think the majority of children need as much of a curve as they can get. I wish there was a little more diversity on this page about how people thought the test was, it seems like most thought it was ok when i’ve actually heard the exact opposite from kids.

  5. June 16, 2010 pm30 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

    I thought it was ok, but I would feel better if more of my kids did better. The 4-point trig equation was a bloodbath. I wish there was a regression or exponential instead. It’s going to be ugly if the cutoff score isn’t ~45 or lower. Fingers crossed.

    Did anyone else find the Bernoulli question about the vests kind of hilarious? I’m goin’ down to the MENS CLUB! Should I wear mah RED VEST? Or mah BLACK VEST? Decisions, decisions. I sure hope somebody was recording how many people wear which vest at every meeting for the past six years! This is IMPORTANT!

    • Mike permalink
      June 16, 2010 pm30 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

      I agree with you, but regressions are just calculator work — no math involved in copying an equation from the calculator.

      I hope and pray, and hope and pray, that the cutoff is 45 or less.

      That question you cited was so sexist. Men’s club? “Remember the ladies,” warned Abigail Adams in 1776. Well, the Board of Regents still doesn’t.

      Anyway, best of luck to your students! I think that it’ll be all right in the end; the cut-off will probably be 45 or so.

      • June 16, 2010 pm30 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

        Some of the kids afterward were like, “Were they talking about a strip club?” No lie.

        • Mike permalink
          June 16, 2010 pm30 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

          Oh, G-d. Teenagers and their dirty minds. As I typed elsewhere, that question was so sexist.

          you know you can sue if there’s anyhing offensive, like if an ad doesn’t reflect the ethnic diversity of people (just ask the New York Times.)

          Well, that question…wow…I hated it so much; thank G-d for partial credit, as they say.

          Very best of luck to all who took the test and especially to those who need the points and care about their grade…

  6. Average Math Student permalink
    June 16, 2010 pm30 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

    I’m what you would call an average math student, not great but not bad. I found the test to be not that difficult, but there were several questions that I had no idea how to do. The one question about the Asymptote no one was able to get. After the exam we all we asking the teachers how to do it. For about everyone in my schools sake, I hope the cutoff is 45, but I would not mind lower.

    • kelsea permalink
      June 16, 2010 pm30 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

      my name is kelsea and all i have to say is fubo i will say it agin gona hit the hooch tonite if you are wondering where i go to school i atind geneseo bestist skool evr. long live obama

  7. kelsea permalink
    June 16, 2010 pm30 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

    castro you are my hero long live communism

    • Mike permalink
      June 16, 2010 pm30 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

      Kelsea,

      Are you serious about communism??

      This is a forum for students and teachers discussing the Trigonometry Regents, for which the conversion chart has not yet been pasted. The fate of hundreds could depend on what that conversion chart says.

      Of course, if the U.S. were to become a Communist country as you seem to hope (Heaven forfend) then it wouldn’t really matter, would it?

      Is that why you typed what you did? B/c you don’t want to work hard and study math and other subjects??

      Please stop your irrelevant commenting and help us out by putting up a link to the conversion chart as soon as you can get your hands on it.
      Thank you, and let us pray with all the vehemence of our bones that the cut-off is 45 or 40 or 35.

      Yes, the Board of Regents is nice to people who need the points, and not nice to those who make few mistakes. But that’s b/c people NEED THE POINTS!!!

      Best regards to all,

      • John permalink
        June 16, 2010 pm30 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

        thank you mike for putting that kid in place as for the test i scored a 43/88 which surprisingly was the 5th highest grade in my school as for the cutoff i asked my teacher and she said it should be around 38 , 39

        • Mike permalink
          June 16, 2010 pm30 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

          No problem, John.

          If you look at nylearns.org/pcuoccio, you will see that practically my whole school flunked. thant’s good news for thsoe who did, b/c that means that the curve will be done accordingly adn you’re about right.

          As for the vulgarity that has been injected into this site, it’s really and truly a shame. Whta’s done is done, everybody; we have no control over what our raw scores are or wil be (for those who ahven’t found them out yet).

          Alas, we don’t have control over the Board of Regents, but it is the case that if everyone (I eman, most people)did poorly, the curve and the cut-off will be such as will accomodate the majority.

          Anything over 45 is truly not so bad; no math wiz but you know your concepts (well, John, I don’t think that only four kids in your school will pass; that would be ridiculous — what school, if I may ask?)

          Anyway, let’s continue the comments, let’s talk about some of the questions maybe (listen, in most of the m.c., all you had to do was plug in #s; why both solving if you don’t know how to or don’t have the time or are afraid of making a mistake or are just too lazy.)

          Please, everybody, watch your language. If you don’t have something productive to say,say nothing. Drop down and do 100 push-ups, watch TV, but please don’t harass the rest of us who care about our grades and who are trying to guess what the cut-off will be because we care, and we’re trying to analyze a test– the first of its kind, but let this exam be a lesson to us all 9although it seems like a disaster to many).

          It WILL be all right; let’s just be optimistic, for what’s done is done and the Board of Regents
          is not so silly as to be blind to how everyone did.

        • chris permalink
          June 17, 2010 am30 8:40 am 8:40 am

          I am hoping for a curve similar to the first math b exam. This exam was missing reference triangles, expansions, regressions, not having a log as long response, composition of functions, not much with imaginary numbers, completing the square…..the cut for the first math b exam was 37. As a teacher I expected the exam to mirror the sampler a little bit more.

  8. Noel permalink
    June 16, 2010 pm30 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

    So why spam, and troll, if you failed the test, go cry somewhere else. Besides you had to been a top class retard to fail it in the first place, so congratulations.

    • Mike permalink
      June 16, 2010 pm30 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

      Noel, not the case, not necessary; do no respond to unwarranted arrogance with unwarranted arrogance.

      Not true, not true, not true — let’s all end the foolish comments and instead let’s talk about the questions (maybe you thought the asymptote Q wasn’t fair, but asymptote just means the line that gets closer and closer closer to an axis but never touches it)and about the cut-off score.

      Please, everybody, watch your language.

      Good luck to all!!

      • Noel permalink
        June 16, 2010 pm30 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

        The cut off will probably be below 40 , if you base it on the first Alegbra and Geometery Regents. The asymptote question was fair, the equation for x-axis is y = 0, not a lot of confusion there. Why are so worried that it is low, I mean if I was a math teacher I would want my students to get 90s and 100s, not barely pass.

    • Mike permalink
      June 16, 2010 pm30 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

      NOEL,
      You can’t base it on previous exams; that’s different, and that’s the point.

      This one may be just as low b/c it is the first administration and we couldn’t study off of previosu exams b/c there were none, or it may be high b/c Trig is advanced. If you want an Advanced regents diploma, you need to do more work — no?

      the logic works both ways.

      Good luck to everybody!!

      P.S. I take it you all knwo your raw scores by now. (?)

      • Average Math Student permalink
        June 16, 2010 pm30 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

        No, I do not actually know my raw score.

      • Noel permalink
        June 16, 2010 pm30 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

        No clue, but according to answers here I got all short answers right, and most m/c right, so I’m pretty sure its 88/88.

      • Studentt permalink
        June 16, 2010 pm30 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

        noel, you think you got a perfect score on this test?

      • Noel permalink
        June 16, 2010 pm30 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

        Yes I do, actually I’d say 99% sure.

        • ANON student permalink
          June 18, 2010 pm30 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

          Noel can you find out your score?

  9. Shabalabadingdong permalink
    June 16, 2010 pm30 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

    Does anyone know what the answer was to the asymptote question? I put y=0. Idk what it was though.

    • Noel permalink
      June 16, 2010 pm30 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

      Yeah it’s right, y = 0.

    • math permalink
      June 16, 2010 pm30 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

      thats right

    • Anonymous permalink
      June 25, 2010 am30 3:10 am 3:10 am

      i put y does not = 0. i thought you had to put what it will be, and not what it will never be

  10. math student permalink
    June 16, 2010 pm30 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

    hello i went to my math teacher at school today and found out my raw score was 71/88. my teacher seems to think the cutoff will be 50. i want to know the answer to question 37 and how to do it. it was the second 4 pt question. it said something about sin 2 theta = sin theta. and how did evry1 think the asymtope question was hard. that was so easy

    • Mike permalink
      June 16, 2010 pm30 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

      OK, math student.

      Go to your Reference Sheet.

      What does it say for sin2A? It says 2(sina)(cosa), right?

      A is a variable just like theta.

      So: 2 sina cosa = sina. Cancel out the sin(a) on both sides of the equation.

      And so on.

      P.S. I sincerely hope — for my own sake as well as for that of the rest of NYS, that your teacher is WRONG!!!

      You did great, though! Congrats!

      P.S.S. I know that — in terms of conversion — the Board of Regents favors those students who did poorly, giving them the points they need to pass and then some, while taking points away from those who made few mistakes. 1 wrong might be a 98, not a 99, for instance. After I got my raw score today, though, that’s just too bad.

      Good luck, math student.

      • June 16, 2010 pm30 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

        No, please no.

        We cannot divide by sinA unless we are certain that sinA ≠ 0. Far better:

        sin2\theta = sin \theta

        2sin\theta cos\theta = sin \theta

        2sin\theta cos\theta - sin \theta = 0

        sin \theta (2cos \theta - 1) = 0 Factor, yes! Divide by zero? No!

        sin \theta = 0 or cos \theta = \frac{1}{2}

        Leading to four solutions. I think 0, 60, 180 and 300.

        Or the solutions can be located by graphing y = sin \theta and y = sin2 \theta and finding their points of intersection

        • Mike permalink
          June 17, 2010 pm30 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

          you’re right; I’m wrong.

    • Mike permalink
      June 16, 2010 pm30 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

      2 cos a = 1
      cos a = 0.5
      and so on… you know the rest.

      I wish you the best.

      • Noel permalink
        June 16, 2010 pm30 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

        Wow….
        You don’t cancel out Sin a you lose a whole term…

        It’s

        Sin 2a = sin a
        2sinacosa = sin a
        2 sinacosa – sin a = 0
        sina (2cosa – 1) = 0
        sin a = 0 or 2 cos a – 1 = 0

        sin a = 0 at 0,180
        cos a = 1/2 at 60,300

        {0,60,180,300}

        Wow Mike, and you said you are a math teacher?

        • Studentt permalink
          June 16, 2010 pm30 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

          we get it, you understand the math, no reason to be nasty

        • Noel permalink
          June 16, 2010 pm30 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

          I’m not being nasty, I’m just saying he said he was a math teacher, yet he incorrectly approached the problem. And as far this exam was concerned, it was extremely fair, and there were numerous sources of review online on jmap or regentsprep. And if you still couldn’t do well more than half the m/c could have done by calculator solutions and the same goes for the short answer. And if you think it is rude or something, then sorry that’s how I am.

        • Studentt permalink
          June 16, 2010 pm30 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

          you are saying it in a nasty way… or saying wow i thought you were a math teacher is nice? He ovbiously understands the math.. just made a mistake. I understand how your probably very good at math but i don’t think your taking in account the kids that struggle with math. For them this test may have been very difficult. I’m decent at math but for some kids its not as easy as just going to your calculator. Also it depends on the teacher, you may have had a very good teacher, other may have not.

        • June 16, 2010 pm30 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

          Hey, let’s stop. There’s math questions to answer, thoughts about the exam itself, and two more math regents coming (for me) and probably one or two for you as well, right? There was a mistake, it’s been fixed. Over.

  11. Taylor permalink
    June 16, 2010 pm30 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

    I looked at number one and i was like ” wow this may not be bad” and then my mind was quickly changed. I and everyone that took the exam in my school thought it was ridiculous. I just felt like half the test was extremely difficult. 12 through 17 and around the 20’s i remember being challenging. A couple of questions i didn’t even recognize, but i guess that’s my teacher fault. Like there was one that said something about putting something into minutes.. i had no idea what that even meant. Then there was another one, i forgot how the question was asked but it was something about linear lines and which one is more negative. There was also a weird graph and it asked if it was like cos or tan. In my class we didn’t get to PROBABLILITY and barley to standard deviation and i think those were half of part two and three. I literally studied for this test nine hours the day before and i felt like half the material on the test was pretty unfair. Also having two regents in one day is soo rediculous. The curve needs to work in our favor or i think a lot of people are going to fail. My friend never got below a 100 one any test all year in math and she thinks she failed.

    • chris permalink
      June 17, 2010 am30 8:46 am 8:46 am

      Don’t beat yourself up over it. I haven’t slept the last two nights because my students did so poorly. there was a lot of material that i feel is at the core of this course that wasn’t asked on the exam. It really didn’t resemble the sampler provided by the state either. the test in my opinion was a fair exam….but only if we as teachers had a few other exams to build our curriculum around.

      • taylor permalink
        June 17, 2010 pm30 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

        yeah i agree, they didn’t ask much about logs or finding the square

  12. Max permalink
    June 16, 2010 pm30 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

    Actually, I agree with Noel on many of her posts but I’d like to point out that nobody who fails a regents will be sitting in summer school, they will just retake it..

    Summer school is typically for those who fail the class, but nice try.

  13. walter permalink
    June 16, 2010 pm30 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

    Can everyone stop fighting please? This math teacher was nice enough to let teachers and students alike for a forum of discussion on the trig- and here you are, giving the rest of us students a bad image.
    And thank you Jd2718 (whatever that stands for). Back to math-
    If i wrote -sin60 would i get half credit if i also drew the graph correctly? I showed correct work…

    • chris permalink
      June 17, 2010 am30 8:48 am 8:48 am

      what problem???

  14. vincent permalink
    June 16, 2010 pm30 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

    Is the answer key online yet? If so what is the website or what website will it be posted on?

  15. Noel (original) permalink
    June 17, 2010 am30 12:19 am 12:19 am

    Alright it seems I have angered/pissed off some people by just saying what I thought was right, oh well that’s how I was raised. Anyway @walter, I believe you will get 1/2 credit for both. @vincent it will be jmap.org in a day or two. @edward, I would type a witty comeback, but that would result in more flames. @Fake Noel, that was funny, good laugh. Yeah I’m going to stop posting at all now, because it seems this is becoming to what Walter described as a place for teenagers to go around ranting and fighting, so I don’t want that happen, so any other posts after this, with the name Noel or anything affiliated to me is not me. Thanks and good luck to everyone with their regents score.

  16. student permalink
    June 17, 2010 am30 12:29 am 12:29 am

    im curious to see which questions everyone thought were the hardest.

  17. Brian permalink
    June 17, 2010 am30 12:31 am 12:31 am

    I got an 85/ 88 do you think i will pass

  18. Someone permalink
    June 17, 2010 am30 12:32 am 12:32 am

    I loved the Sin 2X = Sin X question because I got the exact same question wrong on a test in the class for canceling out Sin, so I recognized it.
    On the whole, the test was not hard. I wasn’t sure of 37, the men’s club question, but I was fairly certain of everything else.

    • chris permalink
      June 17, 2010 am30 8:54 am 8:54 am

      the mens club question is a somewhat complicated probability problem. you have to modify the binomial expansion in order to solve. basically

      10 C 8 (.6)^8 (.4)^2 + 10 C 9 (.6)^9 (.4)^1 + 10 C 10 (.6)^10 (.4)^0

      This may or may not help you, but you can see the basic steps. a combination of the number of possible outcomes, multiplied by each of the probabilities (.6) black vest (.4) red vest, raised to the number of times you want them to occur. at least 8 means I had to add the probabilies for 8, 9 and 10 black vests together.

      • chris permalink
        June 17, 2010 am30 8:56 am 8:56 am

        note the exponents always add to 10, the number of men at the club

  19. Anonymous permalink
    June 17, 2010 am30 12:37 am 12:37 am

    hard hard hard regent compared to both geometry and the fall sampler

    • student permalink
      June 17, 2010 am30 12:41 am 12:41 am

      yeah i agree i thought it was a difficult regent compared to pass ones, but i guess you can’t really compare it to anything because it was the first one. I just pray they make the curve in our favor. And i wasnt sure of 37 either…. we didnt get to some of the material in my class and probability iwas one of them so anything with that, i basically got wrong

  20. student permalink
    June 17, 2010 am30 1:14 am 1:14 am

    i thought it was very unfair. my teacher never taught us probability and a lot of the questions were very tricky. i hope the curve is 35!

    • student permalink
      June 17, 2010 am30 1:33 am 1:33 am

      that happened to me too! we were never taught probability.. what school do you go too

  21. Noel permalink
    June 17, 2010 am30 1:22 am 1:22 am

    A lot of comments got deleted/misplaced and are out context, so I would greatly appreciate if the maker of this blog could delete all the comments I made.

    • student permalink
      June 17, 2010 am30 1:35 am 1:35 am

      although i don’t agree with most of the stuff you said, you should at least keep the useful comments you made about math, when you actually helped people

    • June 17, 2010 am30 8:04 am 8:04 am

      Stuff that was inappropriate got deleted (by me)… but the rest is parts of conversations…

      If there is a specific comment that has lost its context, let me know, and I’ll delete or restore so that what remains makes sense.

      The idea is to keep a running conversation on the exam, which, after trimming, I think we’ve more or less done. And I do appreciate your contributions here.

    • June 17, 2010 am30 8:07 am 8:07 am

      Actually, it looks like only one of your comments got pulled out (the comment about failure just wasn’t nice) – although I completely deleted the “fake Noel”

      • Anon. permalink
        June 17, 2010 pm30 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

        I really hope your blog has an IP banning system for spammers. If not, I have a wordpress extension on my blog that allows me to IP ban people from commenting (I don’t remember the name, but I’m sure there’s more than one), so I’m sure it wouldn’t be hard to find one.

        • June 17, 2010 pm30 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

          I ban reluctantly, and only static IPs. That does explain why there is one less troll this evening.

  22. Worried Test Taker permalink
    June 17, 2010 am30 9:17 am 9:17 am

    Does anyone know if the answers are posted anywhere yet?

  23. Anonymous permalink
    June 17, 2010 am30 10:32 am 10:32 am

    Noel- honestly, it’s great that you probably got a perfect score. But you really don’t have to arrogant about it and call people “retards” if they are worrying about passing. Arrogance is one of those things that people don’t like, and trust me, it won’t get you far in life.

  24. Adam permalink
    June 17, 2010 pm30 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

    The regents was a joke. Why do people keep saying it’s hard? My teacher managed to cover more than everything we needed to know. Why is it that no one is able to remember what an asymptote is? If they ask you to graph a line that can never reach a certain point, that should’ve given it away right there.

    • math permalink
      June 17, 2010 pm30 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

      i dont think it’s fair to call it a joke.. and for the asymptote question i agree but i found it to be a difficult test

  25. math student permalink
    June 17, 2010 pm30 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

    ugh i got that sin2 theta = sin theta question wrong then. i should of just graphed it on the calculator. i could have at least got a point for the correct answer

  26. idk permalink
    June 17, 2010 pm30 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

    hey i took the regents too and for the probability one i multiplied instead of adding do u think i will get partial credit?
    and for the logarithms mltiple choice question does anybody remember how to do it?

    • math permalink
      June 17, 2010 pm30 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

      i think you will get some partial credit.. hopfully they are forgiving while grading

  27. Max permalink
    June 17, 2010 pm30 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

    JMAP had this scoring sheet uploaded.. By “Math B 2010” are they referring to Algerbra 2/ Trig?

    http://jmap.org/JMAP/RegentsExamsandQuestions/3-AdobePDFs/OriginalExams/MathB/0610ExamB.pdf

    • Anon. permalink
      June 17, 2010 pm30 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

      That’s the Math B regents, which is not the A2/T regents. It’s the last time that regents was/will ever be given, but it was given at the same time as A2/T, and the conversion chart is different.

  28. Amy permalink
    June 17, 2010 pm30 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

    he’s still a jerk!

    • Noel permalink
      June 17, 2010 pm30 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

      I thought the maker of this blog was stopping all comments, and establishing a set of rules. Anyway I would reply with a witty comeback, but I’m not really in the mood. You’re entitled to your own opinion.

      • June 17, 2010 pm30 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

        I tried. I failed. You know about that…. (whoops, apparently you don’t!)

        Actually, I only ended commenting on that one post. But I’ll extend it here, clean up, and reopen.

        jd

  29. Kira permalink
    June 17, 2010 pm30 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

    I’m sorry, but I thought this test was extremely challenging to the point where we had to cram so much material into one year ti get everything we were suppose to cover that you didn’t have enough time to retain all the information for long term use. I’m not a bad student, but im almost 99 percent certain I failed this regents for sure.

    • math permalink
      June 18, 2010 am30 12:10 am 12:10 am

      Kira i agree with you 100 % .. i was reading this site and most of the people thought they did so well and i was getting really worried. I know my class didnt get to everything and i thought the test was so hard

  30. liteach permalink
    June 17, 2010 pm30 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

    I agree that the test itself was not extremely difficult however I do have my concerns. Given this was the first trig regents and the amount of content in the course I expected the exam to reflect the sampler. While I don’t expect the state to provide us with the exact questions on the regents, it would have been nice to see completing the square, composition of functions, imaginary roots, or inverses after drilling those questions in class. 35 and 37 drove me crazy too. A complex fraction without having to factor anything? No canceling to negative one? and no factoring a trig equation where a>1? c’monnnn

    Those kids studied and studied but it was bit too much to pull together for students who aren’t strong in math to begin with. We were thinking at 50 for the cut score but so many people seem to think less…keeping my fingers crossed for low

  31. Stuyvesant hs 24 permalink
    June 18, 2010 am30 8:44 am 8:44 am

    need to get a 90 on that trig regent

  32. idk permalink
    June 18, 2010 am30 11:09 am 11:09 am

    how did you guys do the log multiple choice question !?

  33. Incredibly Stressed permalink
    June 18, 2010 am30 11:15 am 11:15 am

    I’m the kind of student who doesn’t easily understand math, but I work really hard at it. This gave me a good grade in the class all year, but I’m not sure whether it helped me on the Regents. I studied for the longest time, but I studied mostly things that weren’t on the test. For example, I was unclear on Logs for most of the year, so I made sure I could do a log with my eyes closed – and I think I got that one MC right for that reason (yay for my insane mnemonics) but I was hoping more that there would be one in the back. The sampler and the actual Regents really didn’t look much alike at all, I thought, and while I thought I knew what I was doing for about 85-95% of the exam, I’m positive there are a lot of people whose percentage would have been much lower than that.

    I don’t have much faith in the curve, though, because like Mike said it is an “advanced” course – the entire state would have had to fail epically for a good curve like we had for the Int. Algebra Regents. That was the opinion of my math teacher, at least. Unfortunately, the state’s deadline for letting us know isn’t until Rating Day (next Thursday), which means they might bide their time for awhile yet. I’ve been searching every day for the exam and the answers – not the conversion chart; I want to figure out my raw score because my teacher hasn’t given them to us. Then I could avoid the nightmares about my math teacher having dinner with us and telling me I failed. xD

    Judging by what most people have been saying, I think it’s probably a low 80s raw score, which isn’t too bad I guess. Although, in reality i probably got much lower, but so far the only question I know I really screwed up was the Trig equation with the double angle, and I think I made a minor error in my parallelogram question, because my answer was like 617 or something, not 604 like most people are saying…i wish I could remember a little more clearly. Other than that and the MC about the period (I think I may have fudged that one as well), I think I got a decent grade. We shall see.

    Good luck to everyone. :] Let’s hope I’m wrong about the curve…

    • Mike permalink
      June 18, 2010 am30 11:21 am 11:21 am

      Why don’t you call up the school to find out your raw score so that you don’t have to BE “Incredibly Stresed”?

      • Incredibly Stressed permalink
        June 18, 2010 pm30 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

        Ah, I’m stressed about all the tests, not just the Trig, that’s just how I am. I would, but I’m too scared to talk to my math teacher, crazy as that sounds. He’s a scary guy. And I was mostly too shy to say anything to him throughout the year. So yeah, I’m a wimp, ’tis true.

    • math permalink
      June 18, 2010 am30 11:28 am 11:28 am

      i agree with you, when i was studying i tried to study a lot from the beggining of the year because that was most of the stuff i forgot. like finding the square, logs imaginary numbers and so on but there were few or none questions on that material

      • Incredibly Stressed permalink
        June 18, 2010 pm30 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

        I know – the circle question, for instance, on changing it’s form to Standard? I hadn’t even remembered that unit existed until I saw it on the test; thankfully something recalled it to my brain. The period thing I could not remember, either.

        • math permalink
          June 18, 2010 pm30 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

          i tottally agree with you on some of the questions i was like omg i remember learning that.. in NOVEMBER and it like escaped my mind how to do it.. but i just found out i passed both my chem and global regents so im kind of releived on all my anxiety and i have come to terms with that i think i failed the trig unless the people who grade the regents make the curve low.. which i really hope because i was talking to all my friends and the people i know who also took the trig regent and they all think they failed.

  34. Jo Shmo permalink
    June 18, 2010 pm30 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

    I go to school in Islip and I found the exam to be really hard!

    Most of the stuff that showed up on the exam were things we only went over for one day, and never saw again..

    There was too much material in this course IMO, I think I failed..

    • student permalink
      June 19, 2010 am30 12:02 am 12:02 am

      agree with you 100% the stuff we spent more than oneday one was no where to be found on the test i felt like

  35. ANON student permalink
    June 18, 2010 pm30 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

    I am a student. I thought that the regents was significantly harder than the sampler. Despite this, the asymptote question was fair. Anyone at this level of math should be expected to know what an asymptote is. @ Noel, I admire your confidence. However, there is a fine line between confidence and arrogance. You can voice your opinion without being blatantly disrespectful. Moving on: My least favorite question was sin theta=sin 2theta. I got the right answer and managed to show enough work to get full credit, but it took me quite a while. Factoring did not occur to me. I knew that there was a way to show that theta=0, but I couldn’t think of what it was. I made a stupid mistake on what was probably the easiest short answer question. My raw score is an 87. As far as I can find out the next highest score at my school (which is admittedly small) was a 65. I think that lots of people are going to fail at my school. That reminds me @Noel, have some compassion. Being intelligent doesn’t give you the right to put people down. Still, like I said, I like your spunk. I hope you get 100%.

  36. georgia permalink
    June 18, 2010 pm30 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

    Noel, there is something wrong with you calling people retards because they may have failed? thats really nice. I guess we just live in a world where not everyone is as perfect as you. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses which make us all unique. God bless

  37. random student permalink
    June 18, 2010 pm30 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

    To be honest, I thought the test was fair, I don’t know why people found it THAT hard. Most of the questions were really easy but some you had to actually think about. The only stuff I didn’t get were like the question with the asymptote but that was because I slept 1/3 of the year in class. I’d say I got at least a 90.

    • student permalink
      June 19, 2010 am30 12:08 am 12:08 am

      well the people who found it difficult are prob weak in math, weren’t prepared enough( meaning they didn’t study hard enough or didnt learn it in school) or went by the fall sampler. I expected the test to be like the fall sampler, that was basically the only thing to go by and i think it was very wrong that they made it significantly harder and a lot of the material in the sampler wasnt even used

  38. Jack B permalink
    June 18, 2010 pm30 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

    Hey there! Yeah, I took an Honors Algebra II/Trig course this year, so I thought the regents was going to be pretty easy. Although I didn’t find the exam incredibly difficult by any means, it was certainly more challenging than I had anticipated. I think the Fall Sampler was very deceitful. The real exam was muchhh harder! There was much more trig than I had expected, too. Anyway, I went to my teacher and found out that my raw score is an 86/88 (got points off the trig equation). What do you think my scaled score will be? Thanks!

    • student permalink
      June 19, 2010 am30 12:10 am 12:10 am

      you did very well, congrats! i guess you can expect to get above a 95. I agree about the fall sampler… they might as well have given us no samplers to be honest if they weren’t even gonna go by it, instead students thought it would resemble the sampler when we know it didn’t

    • some kidd (: permalink
      June 19, 2010 am30 12:41 am 12:41 am

      I have a sheet with a sample conversion sheet, and looking at it, you have about a 99. I’m not sure what the actual scaled score is, but I’m sure it’s pretty darn close. Good luck! (:

    • Anon. permalink
      June 19, 2010 pm30 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

      There’s no way 86 will be 99. It’s likely to be 96, 97, or 98.

  39. HeySup? permalink
    June 18, 2010 pm30 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

    The math regents basically raped me up the ass. Hard.

    • student permalink
      June 19, 2010 am30 12:05 am 12:05 am

      yeah i wanted to cry during it lol

  40. kev (jamaica high school) permalink
    June 18, 2010 pm30 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

    the test was very difficult and all the trig teachers in my school were unable to finish the course. i cant wait to see the 30 and 40 on the wall when there posted

    • student permalink
      June 19, 2010 am30 12:11 am 12:11 am

      same thing happened in my school.. we didnt finish the course, we didnt even get to probability which was like 5 questions on the test, 2 in parts 2 and 3 i think. I am so nervous.. im pretty sure i failed

  41. Mom of Trig Student permalink
    June 19, 2010 pm30 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

    My daughter was very upset after this exam. She was hoping to pass, but didn’t feel prepared at all. From the MC answers posted, it looks like she has possibly 38 points raw score. She got three right on parts II & III. Numbers 29, 35 & 38…also the graph only on 31.
    What would her total raw score be with those questions added to the 38 from the MC. And does anyone think that would be enough to pass?
    She has a 92 average in the class all year long. Thanks for the help. This site does ease some of the pressure of waiting for the final outcome.

  42. Kahlil permalink
    June 19, 2010 pm30 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

    The test itself was fair, that being said, considering the workload and stress on the teachers, I believe that it was doomed from the start. There were so many nonsensical things we students had to learn that bore no relevance to the rest of the curriculum and had no regents backing other then the glazed Dunno-could-be-on-there response from the teacher. Albany screwed up big time and they need to cut some of the crap in their lesson syllabus. Right now I have mixed feelings about this test. I found it not challenging but simply rigid and remote. I hope the curve’s cutoff is at least somewhere in the 40s or upper 30s, hell the 20s would great too!! Really Regents board, just play it cool again like the first Algebra.

  43. Kahlil permalink
    June 19, 2010 pm30 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

    Noel I’m not trying to entice you but your either an extremely nervous guy or just a very proud guy. Really you do not have to be a retard to fail this test, in fact being a retard just means your slow when it comes to learning. Who knows maybe a mentally challenged man has been working extremely hard to do well on this test and where you get 99% he gets 100%

  44. Anonymous permalink
    June 19, 2010 pm30 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

    Noel I’m not trying to entice you but your either an extremely nervous guy or just a very proud guy. Really you do not have to be a retard to fail this test, in fact being a retard just means your slow when it comes to learning. Who knows maybe a mentally challenged man has been working extremely hard to do well on this test and where you get 99% he gets 100%

  45. Linda permalink
    June 19, 2010 pm30 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

    I hate math period!

  46. James permalink
    June 20, 2010 am30 12:04 am 12:04 am

    What the hell was that…the damn samplers they gave us were frigging easy…then when we take the actual regents it turns out being harder…the regnts board suckz…jeez dudes at least give us a sampler that will be similar to the test…not easier that way we dont screw ourselves up for failure!

  47. sohcahtoa permalink
    June 20, 2010 pm30 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

    I thought that the asymptote question was difficult because of the way it was worded. I remember it saying that this equation has an asymptote.. then graph the equation and label the asymptote. I knew that an asymptote does not touch the x-axis, but saying that the equation has an asymptote made me think there was a special formula that the curve had so it didn’t reach y=0. I made a log equation because I had no idea!

  48. Student permalink
    June 21, 2010 am30 12:27 am 12:27 am

    On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the hardest, I thought it was a 7. I’ve been studying and doing practice problems on regentsprep.org and from the green regents prep book and I’ve been getting everything. The day before the exam, I finished a test and got a 100% on the multiple choice and a near perfect on the long response. When I took the test, I thought it was significantly harder from what I had expected it to be. The first few were easy, but after that I wanted to cry.

    I know I got the 6 point question right, but that’s all I’m absolutely sure about. I’m waiting for the conversion chart to be released, but I’ve been checking jmap for days and it still hasn’t been up. I’m really nervous.

  49. Eredel permalink
    June 21, 2010 pm30 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

    eguh

  50. math permalink
    June 23, 2010 pm30 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

    is tommorow the last day they can debate about the curve

  51. math permalink
    June 24, 2010 pm30 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

    jmaps has the curve posted!

  52. Jackie permalink
    June 24, 2010 pm30 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

    Aside from the fact that Algebra 2/Trigonometry is a very hard, rigorous, challenging, and stressful curriculum which teachers and students alike struggled in keeping up with, the Regents board did not provide nearly enough information about the test throughout the state. The Regents Sampler was a much easier level than the actual exam, and the conversion chart should be much higher based on these facts. Many people throughout New York are going to fail this test, and there’s virtually nothing that they can do about it.

  53. randomguy permalink
    June 24, 2010 pm30 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

    This is so stupid and ignorant. The board gives us a hard test then makes a conversion chart of a 46 to pass? so if u get 46 points u get a 65. But for the algebra1 regents if u get 30 points u get a 65. UNBELIEVABLE

  54. Tikiwawa permalink
    June 28, 2010 am30 11:18 am 11:18 am

    I got a 81!!!!!!!

  55. math permalink
    June 29, 2010 pm30 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

    omg i got a 65!

  56. genius permalink
    July 3, 2010 pm31 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

    i got a 99 all u dumbasses

    • Anonymous permalink
      July 5, 2010 am31 9:36 am 9:36 am

      Good for you! Where do you go from here now? Celebrate! Enjoy! Just do it away from here…

      We respect you as a highly intelligent person to get a 99 on this exam. Don’t lose it.

  57. A math student permalink
    July 16, 2010 am31 5:50 am 5:50 am

    I realize it is late to be posting on here, but I wanted to say for my school we did not have a lot of the problems listed above, everybody finished the ciriculum, and our raw scores were on averge fairly high compared to what others our saying. With that being said I found the exam fair and personnally easy, but I am very good in math. The reason for this post was incase anyone still checks it, I wanted to provide you with a link to an algebra 2 and trig e-textbook created by a few of the teachers in my school. It provides lessons and hw for almost the entire algebra 2 and trig. ciriculum, as well as 5 test samples created by them based off the required material,the sampler and the old math b exams. You can download the pdf versions of the ws/hw/ review for free but I believe you have to pay if you want the answer keys and other online resources. I personally think it is a great resource and all our teachers use it, so I thought it might help any teachers who visit this post.
    http://emathinstruction.com/id1.html

    • CCHS permalink
      August 18, 2010 pm31 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

      i have just taken the trig regents for august and believe it or not it was harder than the june one i wasnt prepared for the june one so i understand my grade but this test for august was insane and the state and this tests are just getting out of contr\ol and unfair to everyone

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